Comments on The Phoenix: Ovulating Women on the Prowl

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2006-01-28T19:30:00.000-06:00

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2006-01-18T23:08:00.000-06:00

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good post

2006-01-18T00:00:00.000-06:00

good post

can i get more info?

2006-01-17T22:21:00.000-06:00

can i get more info?

I think I need to start worrying... Of course, my ...

2006-01-14T10:56:00.000-06:00

I think I need to start worrying... Of course, my wife thinks Michael Douglas is so very sexy and I happen to think Catherine Zeta Jones is a hottie so we might be matched after all.

OMG, again, I amazed by your post. Excellent!!!! ...

2006-01-12T19:16:00.000-06:00

OMG, again, I amazed by your post. Excellent!!!! I likely a lot. O wait, I am ovulating.

All this article is saying is when a women gets horny she doesn't want "no short, short man".

Although, I believe a cheater is cheater. When men get horny,they want to do other girls but only the cheaters do other girls.

Same goes for the women.

Gene Simmons...I don't think he's a real human. I...

2006-01-12T07:44:00.000-06:00

Gene Simmons...I don't think he's a real human. I think he's an alien sent down to learn about mankind and create hybrid human-alien babies.

I never thought I would put The Phoenix and Gene S...

2006-01-12T06:11:00.000-06:00

I never thought I would put The Phoenix and Gene Simmons of KISS in the same sentence, but I just did. Gene's book from a few years ago lays out the male spread-the-seed dynamic in much the same way you dis in one of your comments.

(And yes, I just admitted that I read a book by Gene Simmons. I'll expect the indictment soon.)

-- david

good info

2006-01-11T23:18:00.000-06:00

good info

I understand what you're saying...cultures do have...

2006-01-11T21:05:00.000-06:00

I understand what you're saying...cultures do have varying "standards of beauty."

However, there seems to be a universal standard for a "more fit, robust, masculine male." I never said there was a universal standard for attractiveness.

Even with the ideal females, researches went across the globe, even to the Amazon jungles, and found despite the varying degrees of difference...the bust/hip ratio of the ideal woman was nearly identical - from America to Zimbabwe - to even the Inuits.

If this study was done in a culture with vastly different standards than Americans', you'd find the same thing:

Women who would objectively describe their mate as physcially not so attractive would find themselves checking out the more robust, fit, masculine hunky men - whatever their standard of such attributes are - during ovulation.

There will never be any sort of scientific excuse for marital infidelity...but perhaps we can gain an understanding of those urges, thoughts, and desires humans have concerning "cheating" and why those basic instincts might have helped mankind survive these last million years on Earth.

If anyone wants a reason for cheating - just watch Maury Povich.

Universal standards? Um...no. Attractiveness as ...

2006-01-11T20:37:00.000-06:00

Universal standards? Um...no. Attractiveness as a standard is very different from culture to culture.

I wonder, too, how this study would compare with a study done in different cultures, as opposed to having a North American bias, as it seems to.

I'm just sayin'. :)

Once again, I repeat: "the study didn't attempt to...

2006-01-11T19:49:00.000-06:00

Once again, I repeat:

"the study didn't attempt to conclude whether these women are inclined to actually act on any lustful impulses."

So I agree hormones - hormones are NOT the cause of our behaviors. These ingrained and instictive behaviors (i.e. a newborn rooting for her mother's nipple) were necessary for survival a long time ago.

The study DID show a strong correlation between a woman's ovulation and her inclination to look at or be more attracted to the more masculine alpha man. Yes, there is some subjectivity to that, but there is a universal standard concerning what's considered a more fit, robust, masculine male...despite any of the cultural differences or preferences.

What defined the "unattractive male?" His woman's admission during the interviewing process.

jim: that was too funny! Hmmm..."As women approach...

2006-01-11T18:50:00.000-06:00

jim: that was too funny! Hmmm...

"As women approach maximum fertility, some biological impulse appears to rouse interest in men with robust, masculine attributes" - ah, so that explains it. I was beginning to wonder...

Yeah, but how are they defining 'unattractive'?I d...

2006-01-11T17:47:00.000-06:00

Yeah, but how are they defining 'unattractive'?

I dunno. This study makes me cringe.

Our hormones are not to blame for our behaviour. Ever. We choose our response to internal stimuli. Women who are ovulating cheat because they want to cheat. The extra boost of 'f-you' to their spouses may be hormonal, but the 'f-you' already existed.

What happened to Diane? As if her choice to cheat wasn't a choice?

Oy.

Feith

I don't believe hormones are the cause of women's ...

2006-01-11T15:45:00.000-06:00

I don't believe hormones are the cause of women's behavior...I think hormones are simply the means. Our innate behaviors are deeply imbedded in our genetic make-up.

Again, these base behaviors were helpful when survival was of primary concern, not which celebrity reality show to watch tonight.

Jim, you're right on the money. Also, startling video research has shown that when a man believes it's possible his lady has been with someone else, some of his sperm act as offensive linemen, pushing "alien" sperm out of the way.

It's amazing stuff...to see a sperm cell stop swimming and block the intruder's sperm. Other cells even attack. Talk about "sperm wars."

Many of the things we instinctively do are rooted into the very fiber of our being. Much like a newborn searches for her mother's nipple. Whether it's hormones or not - you can't deny that these behaviors have served the human race well for the past 1.6 million years.

Phoenix -- "There is no cycle with men." <==I thou...

2006-01-11T14:43:00.000-06:00

Phoenix -- "There is no cycle with men." <==I thought there were some -- (1) the more you have sex the lower your sperm count becomes, although the only cycle may be a lucky streak;

(2) isn't there an old study that concluded that "anticipation" increases the vigor and number of the swimmers, which is why if you only have sex on Saturday night your beard (stubble in your shaver) will be a little thicker each day until Saturday night finally arrives -- whatever sexual cycle you are on for social (or economic) reasons produces a corresponding potency cycle

I knew that women's sex drive heightened during ov...

2006-01-11T14:34:00.000-06:00

I knew that women's sex drive heightened during ovulation, but had never heard the rest of that...that they were attracted to more Manly Men. But it makes sense...survival of the fittest. And I am not offended by all this, I plan to use it to my advantage...is that wrong?! ;-) Just kidding, I would never use sexuality for personal gain...

analina jolie must have been ovulating when she se...

2006-01-11T14:26:00.000-06:00

analina jolie must have been ovulating when she seduced bradley. (yep. she's now confirmed she's preggers) what's brad's excuse??

I'm a little offended by all this. Probably becaus...

2006-01-11T14:24:00.000-06:00

I'm a little offended by all this. Probably because they're ALWAYS trying to blame women's behavior on hormones, as if that's the only thing that drives us! I gotta tell you, I GOT hormones and I haven't noticed that I've lusted after other men when I'm ovulating. (Usually I'm thinking about pantyliners.) And I've never really lusted after men based on personal appearance anyway... it's all about the personality, baby!

Plus, there is still SO MUCH that the scientific/medical community doesn't understand yet, I'm not holding my breath that hormones are the end all answers to everything.

In a nutshell...men are able to fertilize an egg A...

2006-01-11T13:46:00.000-06:00

In a nutshell...men are able to fertilize an egg ALL THE TIME. There is no cycle with men. We've got millions of sperm just dying to find an egg...every single day of the month.

Men are biologically driven to impregnate as many different women as possible. The more genetic variance a man can create, the more genetically superior his offspring will become.

Once a woman is pregnant, there is no biological reason to engage in sex at all. Think about all the signs in pregnancy that are meant to be turn offs, such as hair texture changes (hair loses its luster, which is the natural sign of being less healthy - and that's one less attractive visual cue for potential suitors).

A man can impregnate as many women as he has sex with, so a man's libido is not restricted.

That's the scientific perspective.

For the contemporary perspective, try Dr. Phil. Maury would be good, but it's a little low-brow...but entertaining.

I was always perplexed when I'd see scrawny, down-...

2006-01-11T13:15:00.000-06:00

I was always perplexed when I'd see scrawny, down-right hideous looking rock & rollers with super- model women by their side. I think in those examples that money talks more than how handsome the man is. I'm sure those lovely ladies strayed just as much as those rockers did.
I suppose most men are pretty much always "ovulating."

Ok women have their biological reasons to blame. W...

2006-01-11T13:00:00.000-06:00

Ok women have their biological reasons to blame. What explains infidelity and adultery in men?

Long ago I was stupid enough to think that other w...

2006-01-11T11:56:00.000-06:00

Long ago I was stupid enough to think that other women wouldn't find my chunky bald husband attractive. I was dead wrong. He might not be movie-star handsome, but his intellect and sense of humor are very attractive to women. They are certainly attractive to me.

Billy Bob and Keven Fed kinda have the same thing ...

2006-01-11T11:48:00.000-06:00

Billy Bob and Keven Fed kinda have the same thing going for them - white trash attitude. Maybe some ladies find it irresistable. Others would rather have their men NOT smell like feet.

Natural selection. Gotta love it.

2006-01-11T10:55:00.001-06:00

Natural selection. Gotta love it.